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In recession, pets go homeless in droves

Each day at five, staff members of the Humane Society of Elkhart County close the animal shelter and hold a meeting. And each day, like clockwork, they begin hearing a "thump, thump, thump" from outside.

That is the sound of pets being abandoned by owners who either do not want them or cannot care for them anymore.

Among the recent arrivals left in "drop boxes" -- kennels that are accessible through doors on the outside of the facility -- are Sweet Pea, a Chihuahua being nursed back to health from near starvation, a cocker spaniel named Cookie and a "family" of three pets left together -- a dog, a cat and rat.

These animals add to the usual traffic of strays, rabid raccoons and animals rescued from abuse. When the drop boxes are full, the Humane Society finds pets tied up at the door, or -- as was the case with a domesticated ferret -- running around in the parking lot. Recently a whole litter of kittens was left in the Humane Society dumpster.

With as many as 600 or 700 animals arriving each month -- sometimes 30 animals in a single day -- the facility, which has space for only 266, is in crisis mode.

'Unsavory position'
The numbers are "staggering" and resources are stretched, said Ann Reel, the Humane Society of Elkhart County's executive director.

"Since the economy has been like this, even rescuers have been down," she said, referring to nonprofits that provide temporary homes until animals can be adopted. "(Now) we are in the unsavory position of having to euthanize because we just can't turn animals around fast enough."

In one month alone, the shelter had to euthanize 600 animals, she said.

The Humane Society staff believes the poor economy is behind the high rate of abandonment -- forcing people to give up pets when they run out of money to feed them or lose their homes and move into apartments or in with relatives. It's impossible to know for sure because many people drop off their pets anonymously in the drop boxes and don't fill out the forms that would help the Humane Society staff understand the animal's health background and breeding. Since October 2008, the shelter has handled 5,783 animals, 42 percent of which were abandoned anonymously.

"For the most part, people just cram the animal in the door, get in their car and speed away as fast as possible," said Reel. "Occasionally we have someone walk through the front door and say 'we've been laid off my job, we are moving into an apartment, we can't find anyone to take them,' and do it responsibly."

Looming cuts?
The number of cats dropped off is especially high, perhaps because people have been reluctant to spend money to spay or neuter their cats under current economic conditions.

The Humane Society is struggling to meet the increased demand. Its budget for free spaying and neutering of cats was shot by April. The pet assistance program, which provides free pet food to help owners who are struggling financially, had 444 requests this year, about two-thirds of them first-time requests. This program is important because it keeps pets with their owners, avoiding unnecessary abandonment.

About half of the Humane Society's $700,000 annual budget is provided by the county and cities, under a contract for animal control. But the organization is anticipating cuts in the next round of government budgets and, like many nonprofits, is casting about for new fundraising ideas, and trying to expand its donor base.

Meanwhile, Reel brought in a fatigue specialist to work with the staff of 16.

"We are overwhelmed in trying to decide who stays and who will have to be eliminated," she said, referring to animals that have to be euthanized. "It takes a toll on our staff. It is not a pleasant job."

The staff also grapple with a year caring for and cleaning up after all these creatures many which are in terrible condition by the time they are dropped off, with such severe maladies as ringworm, fleas and mange. That requires careful handling, and a lot of bleach to prevent the spread of disease.

When people ask Reel, "How can I help?"she tells them to "adopt, donate or send bleach."

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{"commentId":10878876,"authorDomain":"anno007"}

amazing.... I bet a lot of these same people won't sacrifice their cable tv, beer, etc.. or other such stuff, but abandon their pets... my pets are like my children, I would not abandon them because money was tight, I would REPRIORITIZE.

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    Reply#201 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:30 PM EST
    {"commentId":10878894,"authorDomain":"anno007"}

    Oh, and yes, we adopted TWO dogs from the Humane society and had them fixed right away. IT IS CALLED BEING RESPONSIBLE.

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      Reply#202 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:31 PM EST
      {"commentId":10878938,"authorDomain":"Wakanska"}

      When times get tough, I'd hate to be without a dog. That dog will watch my back! Expensive to keep a dog? No! The dog will eat whatever I have left. They don't need fancy designer dog food, and they don't even need bag food. Do you eat chicken? What do you do with the bones and gristle? What about your neighbors? Do you ever throw out wasted, spoiled food? Even old salad fixin's. You can throw it all in a crockpot with a quarter cup of vinegar, and it will break down all those bones, make them safe to eat, and you have nutritious dog food. Even spoiled meat can be cleaned up for pets with heat, vinegar and a little time. Usually it only takes 24-48 hours in a crock pot to make anything edible. After you've made a nice soup, add some rice, potatoes, tortillas, old bread to thicken it and cook a bit more. I've never had a dog get sick, eating homemade leftover soup. They love it so much, they are licking their lips when it gets to be dinner time.

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        Reply#203 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:34 PM EST
        {"commentId":10878957,"authorDomain":"opsl"}

        I have not read all the comments but given from what I have read, I think it is high time that people get a licence to own an animal. Bottom line, no matter what, you are commited for life. It is not a question of of feeding a child or a pet. Of the 5000 pets plus that get dropped off, I am sure that is not 100 percent of the the circumstances. If so, they would walk through the front door. They just got tired and said lets dump it.

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          Reply#204 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:35 PM EST
          {"commentId":10878958,"authorDomain":"U449"}

          My idea of this is your family pet is a member of the family it's as much of the family as your kids you have you don't abandon them do you because you make a choice to have them. It's not there fault about the economy they feel alone and hurt they have feelings to just any one else about there future to survive with out going to a shelter with other animals that know wants because of the economy. And after a month at a shelter with so, many animals a lot of them are being put to sleep. In the near future you should not have an animal unless it to is olan in the future just like you would plan to have kids too.

          Your's Truly

          Unknown 449

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          Reply#205 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:35 PM EST
          {"commentId":10879171,"authorDomain":"Wakanska"}

          Realist, that is not a very realistic viewpoint for what should be required of an owner. I'm glad you walk your dogs, but not everyone has time or inclination. Putting too many conditions on pet ownership only dumps more of them in the impounds, where they have little chance of surviving more than a few days.


          We'd all like to have the perfect home, perfect career, safest neighborhoods, and so on, but a whole lot of humans in this sad world have to settle for what they can get, and only hope to do better. Most will do whatever they have to to survive. Our dogs and cats are no different. They share our fates, and their conditions mirror our own. If you are comfortable and have the luxury to take time to walk your pets, be assured that a large percentage of people in the US are not so fortunate. I'd rather see live dogs / cats in almost any situation where they are getting reasonable care, than dead, headed to the rendering plant or crematorium. Living in a residential backyard is not a cruelty. I used to know a gal who thought it was cruel to lock a dog in a yard, but she'd let her dog run the streets every day, while she was at work. That little dog had three surgeries to pin bones back together when it got hit by cars. THAT is cruel, and very negligent! The owner meant well, but she was foolish. So are a lot of people who try to tell others whether or not they are fit to own a pet.

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            Reply#206 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:47 PM EST
            {"commentId":10879237,"authorDomain":"professorsarzenheimer"}

            I have taken in two more recue dogs in addition to my own small dogs. I wish I had the room and time to take more. I intended to find good homes for these two new dogs but I've fallen in love with them. They are wonderful, obedient, try very hard to learn new words and tricks, one is an alarm system. I actually thinking of discontinueing my alarm system because he does his jobs so well.

            If only every person in each town would just take in one or two until this recession and disaster is over it would eliminate a lot of killing.

            I know there are people out there that need compainionship, need a friend, need a hug or kisses for the holidays. These little dogs love to hug and kiss me. The big one wakes me up. He seems to know that I like to get up at 7Am and he sits my bed making cute little noises as he stares at me and watches me rise.

            Every person out there, sitting in your homes, buying electronic toys, PCs, Ipods, camcorders, TVs, cameras, jewelry, clothes and giving checks for XMAS, instead of spending so much...please...keep some of that money and use it to adopt or foster a couple of animals.

            I promise you, it will make your life worthwhile. You will receive unconditional love, loyalty, humor, playtime, help when your sick...

            that's right, I was sick with the flu...the little guys waited to go out and be fed. They seemed to know. They looked at me concerned and with love.

            It's Xmas soon. If you celebrate it, remember it is a celebration for Jesus, his birthday. He would have wanted you all to help these animals rather than endulge in materialism. Chrisianity is about spreading love, giving of oneself to all those who need help.

            Thanks,

            and Happy Holidays to all

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            Reply#207 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:50 PM EST
            {"commentId":10880081,"authorDomain":"dupuis212"}

            thank you prof swarzenheimer

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            #207.1 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:38 PM EST
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            {"commentId":10879265,"authorDomain":"rnpokerchic"}

            I am so heartbroken for these animals. I have three and they all trust me so much, I just can't imagine hurting them in any way. They give so much unconditional love. The problem with humans is that we think we are the end all of everything. What we fail to realize is that we are destroying our planet and food source. If we continue to think they we can take up all the open space, continue polluting, continue to over populate, that our world will no longer be our world because we will be unable to take care of ourselves because of the lack of resources. People continue to live for the moment without any regard to the consequences for their actions. Really, really sad!

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            Reply#208 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:52 PM EST
            {"commentId":10879275,"authorDomain":"debbie-35"}

            I am a landlady-I allow renters to have pets. I base it on the size on the rental and whether or not there is is a yard. Even in my apartment buildings there are roomy patios for a pet to stretch out. Some breeds are not allowed by my insurer,though. 99% of the renters are responsible-I've only had to replace carpet twice due to bad,bad renters and their untrained dogs. Thank goodness for their deposit.

            To own a pet you have to give up something to afford them-no booze,no drugs,no cigs,no gambling-most people will do this is they have trouble affording pet care.

            I did adopt a kitten that one of my bad renters left behind.

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              Reply#209 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:52 PM EST
              {"commentId":10879306,"authorDomain":"lemons13"}

              This is another reason why the ONLY charitable contributions I make throughout the year are pet related.  I think every single owner who drops off a pet in a drop box (or there version of one), should be euthanized.  I have no problem with putting all those people all in a field and dumping dirt on them. Your usefulness on earth is done. I have zero tolerance for animal abuse of any kind and to me, if you adopt a pet, it's for LIFE. Not your life dork, the pet's life. It's a LIFETIME commitment of money, love, food, and YES, shelter. God bless those poor euthanized pets whose only sin committed was loving their horrible owner.  NO excuses, none.  I am not necessarily God fearing but let me say this: there is no place in heaven for people who dump pets.  They're complete scum. I don't care how broke they are, they're scum.  Whining scum.

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              Reply#210 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:54 PM EST
              {"commentId":10882693,"authorDomain":"tdphillips5"}

              Your a bully and a misanthropic whiner. Give it up and take a sedative, not enough time on the breast when you were a child?

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                #210.1 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:23 PM EST
                {"commentId":10894617,"authorDomain":"pchargrove-msn-com"}

                Who's the bully in that exchange? You're kind of anal mommy not spend enough time potty training you as a child?

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                  #210.2 - Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:48 PM EST
                  {"commentId":11002008,"authorDomain":"tdphillips5"}

                  Nice try

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                    #210.3 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 7:28 PM EST
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                    {"commentId":10879323,"authorDomain":"PYRMAN"}

                    This comment is to NORTHERNRED, I hope you read this, you need to

                    be sterilized by the government, and thrown off the nearest cliff

                    for you asinine comments about animals. Any animal's life is worth

                    more than the likes of you.

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                      Reply#211 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:55 PM EST
                      {"commentId":10879346,"authorDomain":"Ghostmaker"}

                      Despite the words "humane society" on its letterhead, the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) is not affiliated with your local animal shelter. Despite the omnipresent dogs and cats in its fundraising materials, it's not an organization that runs spay/neuter programs or takes in stray, neglected, and abused pets. And despite the common image of animal protection agencies as cash-strapped organizations dedicated to animal welfare, HSUS has become the wealthiest animal rights organization on earth.

                      HSUS is big, rich, and powerful, a "humane society" in name only. And while most local animal shelters are under-funded and unsung, HSUS has accumulated $113 million in assets and built a recognizable brand by capitalizing on the confusion its very name provokes. This misdirection results in an irony of which most animal lovers are unaware: HSUS raises enough money to finance animal shelters in every single state, with money to spare, yet it doesn't operate a single one anywhere.

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                        Reply#212 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:56 PM EST
                        {"commentId":10879507,"authorDomain":"bonitading"}

                        I liken the Humane Society to that of the United Way. They collect a lot of donations, do a lot of cold calling and fund drives, but what do they really do with that money?

                        When I donate, I do it personally to an adoption center near me. Not only could these places use money, they will also take gently used towels, blankets, pet beds, toys, etc.

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                          #212.1 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:05 PM EST
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                          {"commentId":10879421,"authorDomain":"bonitading"}

                          I've been to 3 adoption centers the past week to donate some stuff and its just heartbreaking to see so many unwanted and homeless cats. 3 beautiful cats were brought in while I was there, the sign on their cage said the owner was losing their home and could not keep them, that is just terrible because they were such clean and lovely cats and looked like they were well taken care of. and I've never seen so many kittens, there were just cages full of them. I have 8 cats of my own and my 11 year old pup and wish I could take more in, but I'm already breaking my lease by having more pets than allowed. I will not give up my pets no matter what. All of them were rescues and have been with us for so long they are all part of the family. I also lost my job in June, but that has not and will not deter me from taking care of my animals. You just have to learn how to live on less and take care of what is yours.

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                            Reply#213 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:00 PM EST
                            {"commentId":10879548,"authorDomain":"bronze65"}

                            I swear, people who discard pets in a field or abandon them on the side of the road because they're suddenly expendable in this economy need to be taken into a back alley and shot in the head. How dare you. Would you abandon your child? Or your spouse? It takes almost nothing to feed your pet. They are a defenseless creature that loves and trusts you without question and you would go and do this to them. You are as low as a rapist or a child molester.

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                              Reply#214 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:08 PM EST
                              {"commentId":10879689,"authorDomain":"skermaz"}

                              When I was two I was dumped in an orphanage. Like the stray animals that foraged in the courtyard, I often went hungry but I was never lonely.

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                                Reply#215 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:16 PM EST
                                {"commentId":10879773,"authorDomain":"experdom"}

                                I hope there is a special place in hell for people who abandon their animals. They may be just pets, but they are totally dependent on us for care. Not everyone, as we do, think of their pets as children, but they are no less of an obligation. Or maybe these people would dump their children out of a car at the orphanage.

                                No matter how desperate you are, you can do the right thing for your pets. Find them a home or at least take them to a no kill shelter. But I bet that most of the people who abandon their pets have large screen TV's cable subscriptions, and other things they could use to offset the cost of their pet.

                                There is no doubt that this economic downturn is the worst that most of us have known. But with a little effort, you can find care for those helpless animals who have trusted us to take care of them. I have two dogs, three cats and a parrot. I'd make sure my wife collected my life insurance before I'd let anything happen to them.

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                                  Reply#216 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:21 PM EST
                                  {"commentId":10879803,"authorDomain":"DoingTheRightThing"}

                                  I just have to say that there are responsible people out there that because of the economy have found themselves in a terrible position.

                                  My husband lost his job but was lucky enough to find another one within two weeks - the problem being it was in another state. So, our house is now on the market, getting no offers. Meanwhile, we moved to AZ to live with my Mother-in-law and my husband is working while we look for a new house.

                                  The major problem? We have two dogs and a cat. My Mother-in-law is allergic to animals. When my husband said we may have to give them up, I called around frantically trying to find a reasonably priced place for them and transportation. I was lucky to find a guy who drives animals who took pity on our situation and our animals are now staying with him. It has been fairly reasonable but we thought it would only be a couple of months until we found our own place. It has now been 3 months and we still can't find anything. I don't know how much longer this guy is willing to board our dogs.

                                  Anyone have any good suggestions? We are lucky in the sense that we have some money to spend to have them boarded but I have thought about people who might be in a similar situation that don't have the money. What other choice do they have? It is not an easy time.

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                                    Reply#217 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:23 PM EST
                                    {"commentId":10901647,"authorDomain":"isopod"}

                                    If you would prefer your pets to stay with ? on earth....place an ad for adoption into a nice home!

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                                      #217.1 - Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:37 PM EST
                                      {"commentId":10907263,"authorDomain":"DoingTheRightThing"}

                                      You missed my point isopod, I don't want to give my pets away! They are a part of our family. What I need is to find an inexpensive and affordable way to board them until we can all be united again when we find a home of our own.

                                      Thankfully just yesterday, a friend of ours agreed to look after our pets until we find a house. We initially counted him out because he already had a dog. But we found out that his dog passed away. So, we are very lucky that we can now have our dogs brought here and we will be able to visit with them until we find our own place.

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                                        #217.2 - Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:23 PM EST
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                                        {"commentId":10879813,"authorDomain":"criscat"}

                                        I think it is a shame when our society thinks that any life is disposable. I work at a welfare office and people have used this recession to make up a million excuses. We as a society need to rethink our views. Cars, fancy houses, boats, vacations are just things, but a member of the family such as your pet animal has no voice to speak for it but you. Take some responsibility and make a way to keep the four legged family member. I for one would rather sleep in a box than give up my animal. The governement needs to stop the breeders form breeding animals also. There are plenty of purebreed, mixed breed and all breeds out there looking for a home. Keep in mind that you need to make time to be with your pet. They do not potty break themselves and do not have opposible thumbs to feed themselves. Listen folks all animals are alot smarter than we give them credit for, we need to watch and learn from them. When was the last time you saw a large dog walk up to a small dog and call it names.... NEVER. NOW who is the smarter species??

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                                          Reply#218 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:23 PM EST
                                          {"commentId":10879863,"authorDomain":"keldel"}

                                          When did we become such a disposable society? I understand hard times, but if everyone pitched in...we could solve this problem! SPAY & NEUTER and don't buy from breeders!

                                          This year, when you give thanks with your friends and family members, think of the men, woman, children, and pets that are suffering. Maybe one less toy this year for the kids could go to a homeless pet or if you don't have money, foster or volunteer. Phoenix puts down up to 700 dogs/cats a week.

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                                            Reply#219 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:27 PM EST
                                            {"commentId":10879920,"authorDomain":"queenbee-1489129"}

                                            To scarab333

                                            Just goes to show how much you know. FYI, most people consider a pet not just a pet but a family member and also a kid. I have always had this relationship with ALL my animals...you see I was unable to have children and these pet's are as close to a kid as I can have. Probably better. Pets are always happy to see you no matter what and have the upmost love for you that no human could.

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                                              Reply#220 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:30 PM EST
                                              {"commentId":10879998,"authorDomain":"unfrikenbelievable"}

                                              Jesus H. @!$%#ing Christ! You people are morons! It's a @!$%#ing recession! Many people had nice houses and cars and pets, and they didn't plan on the bottom dropping out of the economy. Many lost their jobs and their houses. And they had to move into apartments with their families. And most of these apartments don't allow pets. What were they supposed to do, live in their station wagon with their 3 kids and a dog or cat, and let the children live in cramped and unsafe/unsanitary conditions just so they don't have to get rid of the animals? @!$%# that! CHILDREN'S needs come first. And anyone who would sacrifice the well being of their children for an animal is a real piece of @!$%#. And that is basically what our country is composed of now. Pieces of @!$%# who want to put animal's rights above humans. What has our society come to when a person in charge of a dog-fighting ring gets 102 years in prison and a child molester gets 3 years? And to the person who said they would go hungry rather than let their cats go hungry: do the world a favor and back that promise up so you can get a big, fat Darwin Award.

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                                              Reply#221 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:34 PM EST
                                              {"commentId":10945360,"authorDomain":"CCCBABIES"}

                                              you are the moron. maybe they should get rid of you and keep the pets!!!!!!!!! these little angels have feelings, they hurt and get sad and unhappy, just like you, you are an idiot.

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                                                #221.1 - Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:47 PM EST
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                                                {"commentId":10880002,"authorDomain":"MrsClvsKidz"}

                                                I agree with Jan. You certainly cannot just let your animals run because they will end up having major injuries. My dog is a beagle and she is NOT an indoor dog because she just isn't happy in my house! She is in a fenced in yard, has her dog house and her food/water... she is happy to be outside. I keep her house dry and clean and she lives freely to roam within the fence. When she started getting out, I was a mess and it took time to figure out where she was escaping from... However, good pet owners will do anything to make sure their pets are safe.

                                                Mrs. C.

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                                                  Reply#222 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:35 PM EST
                                                  {"commentId":10901688,"authorDomain":"isopod"}

                                                  Cinder Blocks work well against fence. .

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                                                    #222.1 - Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:42 PM EST
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                                                    {"commentId":10880098,"authorDomain":"jprhedd"}

                                                    When I read message boards like this it makes me mourn for the good old days. Why would I have to choose between children and a pet if I had not been a greedy pig and overextended myself in the first place? Might not be politically correct but I believe in calling em as I see em.

                                                    My eyes are never bigger than my stomach. I can afford my home, my pets and my children.

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                                                    Reply#223 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:40 PM EST
                                                    {"commentId":10880123,"authorDomain":"MrsClvsKidz"}

                                                    Unfriekenbelievable.. first of all, you are!

                                                    Secondly, you are truly off base coming on here and talking to people like that. Who are you? Really? To display such disgusting language at people you don't know. I call people like this trolls. And I have one easy ingredient to stop them: You don't feed them.

                                                    BTW, what does Darwin have anything to do with this conversation, at all?

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                                                      Reply#224 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:41 PM EST
                                                      {"commentId":10882772,"authorDomain":"tdphillips5"}

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                                                        #224.1 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:30 PM EST
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                                                        I think we have to be reasonable. If a family suddenly looses their home, and have to live somewhere where they can't take pets, then they are left with no choice but to give the animal up. I think they should do it responsibly. An advertisement in the paper inevitably gets a lot of response. Also, if one has to go to the animal shelter, don't stuff the animal in there and run like a coward. Face the challenge with dignity. I would hate to think of giving up my pets, but if I had to, I would want to do it responsibly. Too many people think that having a pet is like having a toy. I see this every year when people go out and buy rabbits and chicks at Easter, and hand off a puppy for someone's Christmas present.

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                                                        Reply#225 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:03 PM EST
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