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Why Elkhart?

The heart of downtown Elkhart, a picturesque stretch of historic brick buildings.

This recession is a sprawling national story, but its effects are local and personal: Families are facing heartbreaking setbacks; managers are laying off friends and neighbors; longtime businesses are closing. Yet our towns and cities also are places of hope, where community is a potent force and America's resilient spirit is ever present.

This is why msnbc.com is in Elkhart, Indiana.

This blog marks the beginning of The Elkhart Project, an effort by msnbc.com to focus attention on one town's battle against joblessness, diminished opportunities, a severe credit crunch and a population of newly needy residents.

In Elkhart this set of problems surfaced months earlier than in much of the nation. So, we will spend the coming months there to bring a better understanding of its people, the hard choices facing them and the triumphs they achieve.

We hope our reporting in this city of 53,000 will help us to understand the national struggle and offer lessons for all of us about how to adapt and endure.

We want to be there on the days that federal stimulus funds arrive or when new ideas and new thinking emerge from the hard times. We will introduce you to the people who will be key in determining the city's fate and to those young people who will be its future. To help us tell this story, msnbc.com is partnering with the Elkhart Truth newspaper. Its staff knows the city inside and out.

Why Elkhart?

The city's horrific unemployment rate, at 19.6 percent in February, already has drawn national attention. Barack Obama has come to the city three times in less than a year to highlight the city's troubles and to promise help. (Watch video below to hear him discuss the economy during a Feb. 9 visit to Elkhart.)

In a country where people ask "Why don't we build things anymore?" this area has long been the rebuttal. Before the current recession, it thrived as a manufacturing center even as foreign competition routed entire U.S. industries. If Americans are to continue producing manufactured goods in the global market, communities like Elkhart must lead the way.

The people of Elkhart are its greatest resource, imbued with an ethic of hard work and a culture of inventiveness. In addition to building the first travel trailers in the 1920s, Elkhart County residents have designed and produced hundreds of products that ended up in homes across the U.S. – everything from popcorn poppers and golf clubs to electronic switches and specialized brass fittings.

Residents talk about the city's resilience in terms of being a bellwether for the rest of the United States. Elkhart, the saying goes around town, leads the way into recession and then shows the way back out.

That is why many Elkhart residents remain optimistic that they will put this economic downturn behind them.

"We've been in this situation before and I think we're going to get out of this all right," Elkhart Mayor Dick Moore told msnbc.com. "We're asking for some assistance, not a handout but a hand up."

The city bounced back after the 2001 closure of the Miles Laboratories plant, the maker of Alka Seltzer and for decades a major employer in the city. And it prospered despite the long slow decline of the musical instrument business, another former mainstay of the economy.

Moore is looking for $92 million in federal stimulus funding for public works projects that he says will create 2,310 jobs.

But even those who believe that the federal money will kick-start the local economy acknowledge that the city must tap new revenue streams, heed the lessons of the past and reinvent itself.

More than 50 percent of Elkhart's businesses are in manufacturing, and one-quarter of those are directly related to the RV industry, accounting for the city's self-proclaimed title of "RV Capital of the World."

Of all the 381 major metropolitan areas in the U.S., Elkhart had the highest share of its workforce in manufacturing jobs in 2007, according to an analysis by Moody's Economy of Bureau of Labor Statistics data.

You can learn more about the local economy in the Adversity Index, a rich analysis developed by Moody's Economy in cooperation with msnbc.com that we're launching today alongside this project. This report includes an interactive map that allows you to see comparable data for the other 380 U.S. metro areas.

Local leaders are wracking their brains for ways to diversify the economy. Among them is Mike Yoder, a dairy farmer and county commissioner, who is championing a plan to use empty RV factories as fish farms. You'll meet him on Wednesday in a piece looking at how hard it is to change in the midst of an economic crisis.

Elkhart officials are attempting to entice businesses to relocate. At the same time, they're looking for the next big idea. Brian Gildea, Elkhart's economic development director, has a pile of proposals several inches thick on his desk, some of which include rough sketches and barely legible hand-written notes.

Moore said most of those he's looked at came from "people who've got a big hat, but no cattle."

There are some bright spots. In downtown Elkhart, a picturesque stretch of historic brick buildings around a central park and river walk, two new restaurants have opened in the past four months. Work also has begun to turn the old ELCO movie theater into a new performing arts center, scheduled to open in fall 2010.

But the economic cross-currents continue to tug hard at other parts of the community.

Long lines snake out of a branch library on the weekend, as residents without computer access at home line up to file the information that will keep their jobless benefits coming.

Vacancies appear to be the rule rather than the exception in many commercial complexes along Bristol Avenue, a major Elkhart thoroughfare. That's where Elkhart resident Ann Cari has had a furniture showroom since 1992, a business that may soon become the recession's next victim.

And "For Sale" signs and notices of foreclosure are common in some neighborhoods, particularly in the largely African-American and Hispanic areas south of the railroad tracks that bisect the city. (Click here for a map of the city).

Sergio Velasco, a real estate agent and mortgage broker, said many Hispanics have left to look for work elsewhere.
"It's terrible," he said. "People I know who have family and friends, they've already left. … It's going to be a ghost town."

And so, the tug-of-war between optimism and despair continues. In the coming weeks and months, we invite you to follow this important story with us, and to share your own stories from your hometowns. Your questions or comments are welcome below.

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{"commentId":6354518,"authorDomain":"arayhans"}

The people of Elkhart are the important component. Industries come and go and the strength of the community remains the people. The RV Market has taken a total crash and nose dive and the auto industry is still crashing. President Obama is full of words and he spends money on his Acorn buddies and earmarks even though he promised not to be tied to lobbyists and he promised to do away with earmarks. Then he says "it is time for action." Sadly his action was an eight day trip overseas to the G20 and to drum up support for HIS enhanced war in Afghanistan. Since he took office the war in Iraq has gotten worse, foreign support for America has plunged (they like Obama but won't support his policies - hmm! Sounds like they don't like him that much). The economy has gotten worse, energty policy is now "green" which will take decades to build and make functional and he takes a vacation and parties in the White House. Poor Elkhart. That city and the people there will be used and abused by the Obama propoganda machine. The demo"rats" are showing their stuff: higher taxes through class envy and "sin" taxes and spending through the roof with no visible results anywhere. The Washington lobbyists are in the demo"rat" pockets and the demo"rats" are smiling all the way to their overseas properties and bank accounts. They are giving bonuses to the crooks at Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae (which the demo"rats" controlled and operated into failure) while fussing about bonuses to AIG workers. Duplicity and hypocrisy abide in the demo"rat" policy manual and platform.

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Reply#51 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:17 AM EDT
{"commentId":6354723,"authorDomain":"larry-8260"}

Please let's not partisin name call on this blog. You don't like President Obama, I get that. As regular people we have got to stop with the hate speech propaganda that is used to whip up emotion by radio, tv, and congressional talking heads. If nothing else, please stop because of the 3 Pittsburgh Police Officers that were murdered last Saturday by a weak minded person that believed the partisin propaganda and felt his only option was to "go out" in a hale of bullets because he truly believed President Obama was going to outlaw guns.

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    #51.1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:26 AM EDT
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    {"commentId":6354564,"authorDomain":"bionichronic"}

    The problem is "as american as apple pie". The problem is independance. Without the help of federal money, Elkhart and many other towns will not survive. They have no exportable product for the town to sell. Leaving them dependant on federal money.The solution for this town like many others, is independance. They must find a way to develope a sustainable future and be independant. But the exact opposite is happening everywhere across america. People have learned to rely on so much outside help, that they no longer are able to support themselves. Credit to buy, loans to help and an under paid workforce spell disaster. What ever happened to the old days when a local business man would employ the people living nearby. When the business man got greedy and contracted his manufacturing out to a penny-paid workforce in a thirdworld country. Sure, he made lots of money, but he collapsed his local economy in the process. Now if he had kept his business to employ the local people, he would have helped his community in establishing a sustainable future without the help of federal financial aid.The american people have acquired more wealth through greed than any other country. So the only way out of this huge mess is to completely change the way the american people think. They must be independant.

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    Reply#52 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:19 AM EDT
    {"commentId":6355129,"authorDomain":"diycable"}

    Yea... the bail-out money can just make things worse by encouraging people to do unproductive activities.    It is typical of government, or for that matter any large organization.   What sounds like reasonable action at the top levels has a lot of unintended consequences on the working end.

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    #52.1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:44 AM EDT
    {"commentId":6360001,"authorDomain":"dmpasserallo"}

    Here's part of Elkhart's 6.6 million stimulus money: The powers that be (sigh, are all politicians alike?) have decided to spend 4.2 million to revamp a runway at the Elkhart Municiple Airport (betcha lot of you didn't know we even have one!). What for? No big-wigs checking on their RV plants are coming to town anymore. BRING BUSINESS and to heck with hiring a dozen out of towners or staters to bring in their back hoes and engineers. This airport will NOT put people back to work. I am all for the fish hatchery idea. And another company with inventory leftover for RV uphostery has turned to making tote bags - they layed off around 40 and have hired back 7! Small progress, but it is progress!

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      #52.2 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 2:49 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":6354645,"authorDomain":"excellent1"}

      Amy,How did you loose your job in OCT 2009 and it's now Apr 2009? I'm glad you are still working..

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        Reply#53 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:23 AM EDT
        {"commentId":6355004,"authorDomain":"x90amy"}

        So sorry 10/3/2008 typo sometimes my fingers get away from me lol

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          #53.1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:38 AM EDT
          {"commentId":6356669,"authorDomain":"stephanie-huff"}

          G White...you're an ass! You know what she means you ignorant bastard! On a nicer note...good luck to you Amy I hope you find a job soon!

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          #53.2 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 12:43 PM EDT
          {"commentId":6357330,"authorDomain":"x90amy"}

          Thank you Stephanie! Hard to beleave I worked in an office LOL even a persons typing skills start to flounder when not used. FYI... I was a receptionist and lost my job and still can't find a job. The issue is NOT just manufacturing it is an all around issue.

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          #53.3 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 1:08 PM EDT
          {"commentId":6360724,"authorDomain":"stephanie-huff"}

          Amy

          I understand where you're coming from, I still work for Monaco Coach at the moment but have been looking to get out of here as we are in Chapter 11 right now, and I don't see that changing.  There are absolutley no jobs in this county or surrounding ones either....again good luck!

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            #53.4 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 3:20 PM EDT
            {"commentId":6408930,"authorDomain":"janescoop"}

            I was down in Florida and saw the locals wearing these wristbands and thought it was such a great idea. I search all over town to get one and they were sold out. I found the website and thought I would pass it on to you. I was also an unemployed statistic and the wristband got me noticed. Also one of the gals that started this, one of the locals told me, she is from Elkhart and her family is still there.

            I have family that is still unemployed and they are wearing the wristbands and people strike up conversations with them all the time that normally would not. Anything helps. It is bad everywhere but I say a prayer for all of the unemployed. I hope I have helped somewhat. The website is

            www.laidoffneedajob.com

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              #53.5 - Thu Apr 9, 2009 11:03 PM EDT
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              {"commentId":6354698,"authorDomain":"jcawthon1"}

              Turn the mobil home industry into the wind turbine industry. Wind energy is picking up momentum and foreign companies are at the forefront of producing and erecting many of the wind turbines.

              There is a 400 turbine farm(s) just north of Purdue.

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                Reply#54 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:25 AM EDT
                {"commentId":6354944,"authorDomain":"larry-8260"}

                That is exactly one of the manufactures that was at the town hall meeting in Elkhart, Indiana. The Company President said his company was struggling because there are no tax breaks for the wind-turbine industry as there are for the oil industry. President Obama said the stimulus package had help for his industry. However, I have not heard if that part of the stimulus package made it though in the final bill that was passed and signed.

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                #54.1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:35 AM EDT
                {"commentId":6355220,"authorDomain":"diycable"}

                How do you know there are no taxes on oil? That is ridiculous. The state of Alaska residents collect a stipend every year based upon oil production. The states that depend upon natural resource extraction collect HUGE sums of money from these activities. The people living in those states have much lower taxes on average than others without those industries to support them.

                It is just the opposite. Wind, solar and other green energy activities have huge tax incentives from the production level, to government mandates, to tax incentives for the consumer.

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                  #54.2 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:48 AM EDT
                  {"commentId":6355552,"authorDomain":"larry-8260"}

                  I didn't say the oil industry paid no taxes, only that taxes on oil were less than the wind-turbine guy had to pay in his business.

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                    #54.3 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 12:01 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":6356137,"authorDomain":"diycable"}

                    I'd say that is nonsense. Oil is taxed at every stage of produciton, transportation and consumption. What do you think pays for all of our transportation infrastructure? It is tax on oil.

                    I'm not against that, in fact I'd be for an increase on gas tax. I'm all for developing wind and solar but we have to be realistic. Even in the most optimistic forecast wind & solar are only capable of supplying a portion of our overall energy needs. We need to develop nuclear or other viable methods of producing energy going forward.

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                      #54.4 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 12:24 PM EDT
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                      {"commentId":6354825,"authorDomain":"mysecondchapter"}

                      Absolutely EVERY SINGLE industry in America depends on fossil fuel. The high prices of fuel is what drove the economy to disaster.

                      For the economy to rebound the US MUST produce SOMETHING, producing it's own fuel; yes drilling is an answer!! It would produce jobs, ease dependence on foriegn fuel. It isn't a forever answer...it is a transitional answer. We can still continue with the 'green' jobs alongside. But there must be a bridge between the two!!

                      I think we could deal with 'Gobal Warming' so much easier if we knew we'd have a roof over our heads and food on the table TODAY.

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                        Reply#55 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:31 AM EDT
                        {"commentId":6356266,"authorDomain":"diycable"}

                        It wasn't the high price of fuel. It was the lending practices, the packaging of questionable quality loans into AAA rated packages that wasn't really AAA quality. It was the irrational housing bubble. Fuel prices may have killed RVs and automotive industries but guess what..... this is just the beginning of a world-wide increase in oil pricing. It is as simple as supply and demand and there is no way we are going to pump our way out of this. With China, India, and Indonesia along with all the other developing countries becoming oil consumers, there is no way for the price of oil to go but up and the sooner we recognize that, the better. It is a cold hard reality and one that won't be changed by drilling in Alaska (which I'm for by the way).

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                          #55.1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 12:29 PM EDT
                          {"commentId":6357095,"authorDomain":"mysecondchapter"}

                          Kevin--

                          If I slit my wrist; eventually my brain will cease to function. (some say it already has)

                          But one could argue; was it the wrist injury that 'led' to my demise or was it lack of brain activity?

                          If you take 20 to 30 percent of a families income (added fuel cost) then certainly there is less money for new tires, less money for food, less money for clothing, less money for..... all of the day to day. The silly rated securities were soon to follow.

                          But think; how many people may have been able to hold on to their homes IF they didn't pay an extra two+ hundred dollars to heat their home or fuel their transportation?

                          It started somewhere, it started in the everyday nittygritty of everyday living.

                          I too do not think that drilling is the end answer. BUT it will create jobs NOW, it WILL increase supply for the demand. It WILL be productive.

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                            #55.2 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 12:59 PM EDT
                            {"commentId":6357358,"authorDomain":"diycable"}

                            Even if we went whole hog drilling, which isn't politically possible (too many Greenies) we wouldn't put a dent in the world supply of oil. The fundamental supply/demand issue is one we don't control. It is affected largely by the changes in the world that are occurring regardless of our activity.

                            Sure... we can drill and tap and increase supply (at some minimal level in relation to world supply), we can all drive a Prius, recycle, turn down our heat and use florescent bulbs but that does not fundamentally change the long-term supply/demand situation that is driven by WORLD activity, not just US activity.


                            Drilling oil is fine and dandy but it is just putting off the day of reckoning. Personally, I'd rather save our reserves of cheap oil and let the rest of the world exploit their cheap and easy reserves. Save our oil until it is worth $500/barrel and then extract it.

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                              #55.3 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 1:09 PM EDT
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                              {"commentId":6354836,"authorDomain":"jbbattles"}

                              My husband and I live in nearby Goshen, and for the first time in 30+ years ( 20 of them with the same employer) my husband finds himself laid off. No, he does not work for the RV industry...not everyone who lives in this area does, contrary to popular belief. He is an HVAC Service tech specializing in maintenance for residintial home hearting and air conditioning units. Fortuanely his job should start up again within the next month but there are many who do not have that promise. It's definiltely been a trickle down effect here...with no extra money to spend we've cut out luxeries such as the daily newspaper, long-distance phone service, eating out, etc. and only buying what is absolutely necessary when grocery shopping. With most of the people here in the same boat restaurants, stores, and other business including schools are suffering. Fortunately our children are now adults; I can't imagine having small children at home and trying to provide for them as well.

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                                Reply#56 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:31 AM EDT
                                {"commentId":6354952,"authorDomain":"x90amy"}

                                I personally feel that Elkhart will endure we have watched Miles Labratories sellout, watched Bayer leave our area, watched the decline of the band instrument industry. For too many years Elkhart has put all of it's eggs in one basket but has had the ability to bounce back from adversity. My hope for my community will be that we finally diversify!! I have NO DOUBT we will be back! We simply need to rethink what and who we are as a community. This is gonna hurt, but change generally does. As for the one comment about moving for those of us who are homeowners moving would be next to impossible.... there is no one to buy our homes and if we are on unemployment most of us have no money to move on...lol so we are kinda stuck...lol. Besides the job market is not that great anywhere else... just sit back, go to school and ride this wave.

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                                  Reply#57 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:36 AM EDT
                                  {"commentId":6354954,"authorDomain":"bionichronic"}

                                  Just look closely at the RV industry, how many of the components that go into an RV are actually made in america.? Sure, final assembly takes place in Elkhart, or nearby. But; a sustainable future in this industry, means that all the components of an RV MUST be made in the US and final assembly in Elkhart. Now we're talking sustainable future and prosperity for all.!!!!

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                                    Reply#58 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:36 AM EDT
                                    {"commentId":6354994,"authorDomain":"pebbles-peb"}

                                    I was just in Indy for the 1st time and it seems to be a true American State. Why Elkhart? Why not? Where I see that changes need to be made is that we need to stop sending work overseas and across the border and bring the jobs back home!

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                                      Reply#59 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:37 AM EDT
                                      {"commentId":6354996,"authorDomain":"mclaughlin0946"}

                                      Reply to 'Had it in Kansas' and in general: when I see someone raising the issue of excons and illegals taking jobs I immediately know they are a FOX News devotee or that other guy on CNN that lives off stirring up fear and hatred. Excons and illegals aren't taking our jobs - that is nonsense. Elkhart is no different than Coburg Oregon - we take the jobs that are available and we do what we have to to get by, inculding paying taxes all our lives and if the government pays some of that back to hard working communities then I say this is as it should be. The people of Elkhart deserve our helping hand and give excons a break - one out of every one hundred men in this country has been either to prison or under supervision of the courts so look around and know that you are talking about your neighbors. We are the government and we need to help those who need our assistance but just watch out for the people who always seem to take most of the money - the fat cats.

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                                        Reply#60 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:37 AM EDT
                                        {"commentId":6355040,"authorDomain":"jowand"}

                                        Elkhart's problems started when oil started to go up and stayed over 100 dollars per barrel for a long time. People were smart enough this time around to see that there is nothing stopping it from going up again. We, Congress, have stopped oil production in this country in the richest petroleum potential areas.

                                        First Congress demonized the oil companies this made it easier to shut down further oil production in the USA. We have demononized all 8000 banks in the banking industry, all of Wall Street, the US auto industry, coal production, natural gas production, electrical generators using coal and natural gas. All of it being driven by the human caused global warming swindle. Obama says he expects electricity cost to skyrocket under his administration, he want oil at 100+ per barrel he just didn't want it that fast. Obama's Energy Sec' Steven Chu wants gasoline prices to go to the same levels as they are in Europe. Chu says he wants us to be on solar power but admits they don't have anything to store such large amounts of electricity in, and will not for years. There has been zero debate on this subject, courtesy of the MediaCrat news.

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                                        Reply#61 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:39 AM EDT
                                        {"commentId":6355053,"authorDomain":"info-380"}
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                                        {"commentId":6355054,"authorDomain":"nbr12"}

                                        Elkhart is simply a mini Detroit. The economy thee is totally dependent on the RV industry. The one advantage Detroit has over Elkhart is that the vehicles Detroit build are a necessity. They are needed to get to work, to carry things to job sites, to travel to the grocery, to go to church and visit friends. THe vehicles Elkhart builds are for play. They are bought with disposable income. They are the first thing to go and the last thing to come back when cutting back on the budget.

                                        Elkhart is not typical in any way . They are on the bottom rung of the ladder in a tight economy, and at the very top in a bustling economy. We won't see that for a long time. QUIT TRYING TO MAKE ELKHART SOMETHING IT ISN'T! The people there know what the game is - they've been through it before - many times.

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                                          Reply#63 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:39 AM EDT
                                          {"commentId":6355112,"authorDomain":"ekan"}

                                          Elkhart County has reinvented itself many times, from the frontier days to band instruments to Alka Seltzer to RVs and mobile homes to our current manufacturing base that's diversified beyond RVs and mobile homes. Unfortunately, much of that diversification has been to the auto industry...which is not doing so well right now either.

                                          But the spirit of innovation, risk-taking and entrepreneurship pervade this place. A downturn is a great time to reinvent, which is what we're good at here. We'll be fine.

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                                            Reply#64 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:43 AM EDT
                                            {"commentId":6355232,"authorDomain":"x90amy"}

                                            What has happened has been a long time coming for the ENTIRE country! It is not just this president or that presidents fault. It is not the fault of one political party or the other. It is the fault of a way of thinking. If we as a nation are to survive this we as a nation need to accept that same old same old has not worked. We need to become independent as a nation and stop relying on other nations for oil, money etc. We need to stand on our own two feet or we are destined to fall to our knees. The phrase "UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL" comes to mind.

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                                              Reply#65 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:48 AM EDT
                                              {"commentId":6361310,"authorDomain":"mistisavage"}

                                              It would be near impossible for our country to become completely independent again, however unfortunate that may sound. What we need to start realising is the world is a global economy now. The US depends too much now on other nations to produce its goods. Just look at your supermarket. How much of that food has come from your local area? We (US citizens) like having everything we want when we want it whether or not it is realistic to have it.

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                                                #65.1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 3:44 PM EDT
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                                                {"commentId":6355269,"authorDomain":"Skiputz"}

                                                I own a Machine Shop in Elkhart. We are down to 1/3 of our Highly skilled Machinist and Tool Makers from last year. There is very little work to go around. The saddest part about this is that there are these hard working people in our shop that want to work, want to produce, don't want any type of handout and there is nothing. Some of them we have known over 30 years. Manufacturing jobs in this Country have dropped faster than any other sector in the last 8+ years. The best most logical choice to jump start this economy is to bring Manufacturing back to the forefront. People working pay Taxes and spend money.

                                                Giving money to the likes of AIG and Banks is wasteful and will never see a return on these dollars.

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                                                  Reply#66 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:50 AM EDT
                                                  {"commentId":6355270,"authorDomain":"psychopyro80"}

                                                  I was born in Elkhart Co. and lived there till I was about 21. Personally, I'm glad I got out of there. People there did this to themselves. There used to be plenty of jobs there. It was not always just RVs. There used to Miles Labratories (remember Alkaseltzer and the assorted vitamins), but the US and local governments allowed Bayer AG to move it out of the country. And the plastics industries there got too greedy and started hiring illegals because it was cheaper, forcing more of the skilled workforce to leave. I watched plenty of companies go well before the downturn due to their own greed and short sightedness.

                                                  Changing what they make there changes nothing. As long as the corrupt local officials are still in charge, nothing will change. Take a good look at the people in charge. Elkhart is big enough to have diversity, but yet it's still very similar to Chicago style politics.

                                                  Elkhart has done this to themselves. I'm glad I got away when I did.

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                                                  Reply#67 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:50 AM EDT
                                                  {"commentId":6356347,"authorDomain":"dheeter"}

                                                  Igie - way to dog your home and offer a solution. Way to go! People like you are the CAUSE of your so-called chicago style politics. Unless you live in Chicago, don't try to compare Elkhart and it's small town ways to Chicago - there is no comparison. I've lived in both - I know.

                                                  I understand the anger and impatience, but these are tough times, try offering some patience....

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                                                    #67.1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 12:31 PM EDT
                                                    {"commentId":6360163,"authorDomain":"dmpasserallo"}

                                                    What do you mean "the people just did it to themselves"? Everyone I know just wants to work hard, go home, and collect a decent paycheck at the end of the week. As a small employer here, I am doing everything I can to keep my employees on the payroll and find work for them, however I can. You may be right about one thing. A couple of mayor's ago, we had one here that advertised on billboards in Mexico to come on to Elkhart, plenty of jobs!

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                                                      #67.2 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 2:57 PM EDT
                                                      {"commentId":6867683,"authorDomain":"Taffy64"}

                                                      We didn't dp anything to ourselves.... NAFTA did!

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                                                        #67.3 - Sun May 3, 2009 9:51 PM EDT
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                                                        {"commentId":6355276,"authorDomain":"shimmy1435"}

                                                        Elkhart is not the only city/town in Indiana that is suffering economically. As of February 2009, the entire state had an unemplyment rate of 9.4, which means there were 324,00 Hoosiers without jobs, with 230,00 of those individuals eligible for unemployment benefits. That is the highest number of unemployed Hoosiers in 25 years. My question is what is our "beloved" governor doing about this issue? Setting aside a political courtesy, he did not even have the common courtesy to meet with President Obama when he visited Elkhart in February. I suppose he was too busy handing out contracts to his cronies, and counting his own money. He is one man who is so out-of-touch with his constituents. Listen Gov. there are people in this state who are really hurting. Do your job.

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                                                          Reply#68 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:50 AM EDT
                                                          {"commentId":6374223,"authorDomain":"cheekylilchatter"}

                                                          I believe that visit is the one that he was not invited to attend, but I could be wrong.

                                                          I read about it in our newspaper about how the gov was not invited by obama and how people were debating whether or not he should turn up uninvited or not.

                                                          Other than that, we all need to realize that no towns matter to our government, only Indy! remember how they wanted to put on more taxes for the stadium for the whole state to pay when indy would be the one benefiting from it. every town in this state seems to be crumbling and its been going on a long time, and all we get are excuses, not answers.

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                                                            #68.1 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 10:23 AM EDT
                                                            {"commentId":6374562,"authorDomain":"dmpasserallo"}

                                                            Gov. Daniels? I realized a while back when he "sold" our toll road that our governor does not care about anything north of State Road 30.

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                                                              #68.2 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 10:38 AM EDT
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                                                              {"commentId":6355342,"authorDomain":"blue96stang"}

                                                              I am also from Elkhart and currently out of work. I agree that education is one of the best things that people can do right now while they are off work in order to better themselves. However I want to emphasis, that there still isn't any jobs available for people with or without an education. I know many people with a higher education, that still can not find jobs. There appears to be activity in the area according to the job sites, however if you notice they post the same jobs over and over again. It is not just Elkhart, the entire region is suffering. Even if people have an education right now, it is almost impossible to find a job. With the housing market also in the dump, it is almost impossible for someone to sell thier house and relocate. We truly need some large tax incentives for good companies to open divisions in our area. We need to entice strong companies that need manufacturing to come to the area and employee some of our people. There should also be some incentive for small companies to open a new business in the area that can provide employment. It appears to me that people are focusing on the symptoms, and not necessarily a solution. If they keep focusing on the symptoms, then they will never fix the root cause of the problem. They need to be a little more proactive now, and then they may be able to be less reactive in the future. It seems to be that people are just waiting for the RV industry to come back, instead of looking for alternatives for our area. Instead of being the RV capital of the world, maybe we can be the wind or solar capital of the world.

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                                                              Reply#69 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:52 AM EDT
                                                              {"commentId":6355715,"authorDomain":"x90amy"}

                                                              You are so right it does not matter what your education level is in this community! Folks with 30 years on the job have lost their jobs, management has lost jobs...we have been desamated in this community. FYI since you and I are in the same community stay away from any job posting that says E-1 or Employment One. They charge you a fee of anywhere from $180.00 up for a LIST of POSSIBLE jobs... no guarentees just a fee

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                                                              #69.1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 12:07 PM EDT
                                                              {"commentId":6408883,"authorDomain":"janescoop"}

                                                              I was down in Florida and saw the locals wearing these wristbands and thought it was such a great idea. I search all over town to get one and they were sold out. I found the website and thought I would pass it on to you. I was also an unemployed statistic and the wristband got me noticed. Also one of the gals that started this, one of the locals told me, she is from Elkhart and her family is still there.

                                                              I have family that is still unemployed and they are wearing the wristbands and people strike up conversations with them all the time that normally would not. Anything helps. It is bad everywhere but I say a prayer for all of the unemployed. I hope I have helped somewhat. The website is

                                                              www.laidoffneedajob.com

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                                                                #69.2 - Thu Apr 9, 2009 11:00 PM EDT
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                                                                {"commentId":6355362,"authorDomain":"blamoshop"}

                                                                Dick Moore is lobbing for 92 million dollars in stimulus money to put into PUBLIC WORKS projects. They are projects not long term jobs. In 6-8 months maybe a year when the projects are finished where does that leave the 2300+ workers at. Back at WORK ONE applying for unemployment benefits again because they where just laid off again. I don't disagree that the public works projects need funding or completed. Creating jobs is the only way out of this recession and the majority of them are going to be created by small business not projects.

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                                                                  Reply#70 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:53 AM EDT
                                                                  {"commentId":6360311,"authorDomain":"dmpasserallo"}

                                                                  And few of the supposedly 2300 workers for these projects will even be from Elkhart or the surrounding area! I drive the six-span bridge home everyday (one of "those" projects) and from what I saw, the license plates on the trucks there are all out of Indy!

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                                                                    #70.1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 3:03 PM EDT
                                                                    {"commentId":6867698,"authorDomain":"Taffy64"}

                                                                    I don't know who's truck you saw... they are Elkhart people!

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                                                                      #70.2 - Sun May 3, 2009 9:52 PM EDT
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                                                                      {"commentId":6355394,"authorDomain":"celandess"}

                                                                      My husband works in Elkhart County for a company that produces manufactured homes. These workers are not in unions and bust their butts everyday. These workers make quality homes that are affordable and can be shipped all over the country. There is no reason why banks can't begin to make loans to people who are qualified borrowers and want to have the American dream. I think the banks are hoarding their money rather than making loans to people who are truly qualified.

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                                                                      Reply#71 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:54 AM EDT
                                                                      {"commentId":6355877,"authorDomain":"diycable"}

                                                                      The banks are required by law to have a certain asset to loan ratio. If the assets securing their loans decrease in value (homes), they have no choice, by law, to do anything but try to hold more capital. That isn't hoarding, it is following the rules laid out in order to keep banks from leveraging to stupid levels.

                                                                      The bottom line is that the housing market is overbuilt. There are more homes than there are people who want to buy them. You cannot build more homes to create jobs without making the situation worse. Those industries are going to idle for a few years until the situation changes in the supply/demand and the government can do little or nothing about it.

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                                                                        #71.1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 12:13 PM EDT
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                                                                        {"commentId":6355412,"authorDomain":"rmlepard"}

                                                                        I wish the people of Elkhart all the best and will pray for provision for the people of the town. I know that Elkhart will survive the storm and I pray that Obama stop using them for his political deceit and maniplulation of our country to a socialistic gloabl society.

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                                                                          Reply#72 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:55 AM EDT
                                                                          {"commentId":6355510,"authorDomain":"x90amy"}

                                                                          I don't understand the need to lay blame. The economy is bad plain and simple. It is what it is! This is the situation that the entire country is going to have to deal with...it simple hit Elkhart harder and faster then it has hit the rest of the country. Again unless we stop bickering and laying blame it won't get fixed. We have to pull away from foreign oil, we have to STOP borrowing money from other countries, we need to realise that we cannot fix the ails of the world when we can't fix our own....... my grandma used to say "clean off your own back porch before you try to clean off someone elses". Seems that's whatwe need to do... start cleaning house.

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                                                                          Reply#73 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:59 AM EDT
                                                                          {"commentId":6355532,"authorDomain":"sochmnoles"}

                                                                          Question to anyone: President said if his economic stimulus package was passed, it would create (save) 2,000 jobs at Caterpillar. What happened?

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                                                                          Reply#74 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 12:00 PM EDT
                                                                          {"commentId":6358300,"authorDomain":"dlfriesen"}

                                                                          You will recall that, as part of his stimulus announcement at Caterpillar headquarters, B.O. informed those present that Cat would begin recalling recently laid-off employees within days of the bill signing. Unfortunately, following his departure, the Company CEO was forced to clarify the matter with all employees. In short, not only did the stimulus announcement fail to generate an employee recall at Caterpillar, further staffing reductions have since been required.

                                                                          As was so eloquently stated by previous writers ... B.O. is simply using such local photo opportunities for personal political advantage.

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                                                                            #74.1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
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                                                                            {"commentId":6355579,"authorDomain":"nafowlmood"}

                                                                            Typical to blame the union for people losing jobs, as stated before these plants were not union.If more people had someone to fight for there job and keep them in the US then we would have money in our pockets to spend on the products built in elkhart.All of you who blame the union jump in your foreign car and run down to China Mart and work for part time minimum wage.Then stop by and pick up your food stamps and your wic voucher and get home to watch your chinese made tv set and complain that the government isnt doing enough to help the little guy out.Union guys try to set a wage and benefit package that allows working people to live a decent life without government hand outs and all anyone wants to do is put us down.We wouldnt need welfare and half of our social programs if people had good wages and benefits .I have worked half of my life non union and can tell you that I work harder now than ever trying to help turn this economy around by being productive and buying american.If you think the union saves people who dont want to work then come and work for me on one of my crews you will produce or get fired. Signed a former union member who now employees union members.

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                                                                              Reply#75 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 12:02 PM EDT
                                                                              {"commentId":6365597,"authorDomain":"bobket"}

                                                                              then how come so many auto parts are made overseas and shipped to union factories to be assembled by uaw members? looks like the union lost that fight, makes you wonder who payed for gettlefingers suite at the fountainbleu in miami a couple of weeks ago doesn't it?

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                                                                                #75.1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 7:30 PM EDT
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                                                                                {"commentId":6355631,"authorDomain":"sschnelz"}

                                                                                MSNBC will miss the real story. If MSNBC thinks Elkhart is in trouble, it is probably in pretty good shape...

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                                                                                  Reply#76 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 12:04 PM EDT
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